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Post by ErikaLeroux on May 16, 2011 15:35:24 GMT -5
Enough said.
Personally the song makes me want to vomit and I still find it incredibly hard to believe the Phantom would actually even be willing to write such vaudeville trash. Even without Christine I find it a little hard to believe his talent for writing good songs vaporized into thin air. I mean really? We go from writing Don Juan Triumphant to writing "Bathing Beauty on the beach see her practically glow" or whatever? No. Just... no.
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Post by embily07890 on May 18, 2011 7:15:34 GMT -5
The point is that without Christine he DOESN'T want to write good music for anything or anyone. He's got it inside his head but he doesn't know how to express it and he doesn't want Meg to sing something that should be Christine's. He's literally just doing it to entertain and make money
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Post by ErikaLeroux on May 18, 2011 12:44:36 GMT -5
Yeah but you have to remember that in the original when he writes Don Juan Triumphant it's almost kind of a "hey your opera's stink! Here's something better." I can't really picture him going from writing Don Juan Triumphant and insulting the opera house's choice in operas to writing vaudeville trash. If he wants Christine to sing fabulous songs that doesn't mean that the songs he writes for other people have to make people want to bang their head against a wall. There's terrible songs, okay songs, and fabulous songs. Couldn't he have just written okay songs?
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Post by TransylvanianRose on May 23, 2011 5:19:38 GMT -5
I don´t hate Bathing beauty. ;D It´s one of those "pretty little ditties" which don´t compare to music of POTO! ;D
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Post by phantomstudent on Jun 2, 2011 9:23:31 GMT -5
Bathing Beauty has it's purpose, though watching it on stage makes me a tad uncomfortable. I'm always afraid of wardrobe malfunction and more bared skin than I cared to see. Going beyond that, I think it's a pivotal part of the story because Meg uses the audacious move to gain the Phantom's attention. When she realizes that he never watched what was a "bit too much," it's the straw that breaks the camel's back, or in her case pushes her over the deep end. The song is a tad annoying, but I don't think the play absolutely infers every song sung at Phantasma is penned by the Phantom. If it's vaudeville trash, then let's just say he's pretty much at the lowest point in his creative life and his will to write something beautiful died when he lost Christine. His new creation of Love Never Dies, of course, is his return to something more meaningful because Christine will sing his music again.
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Post by droney on Jun 14, 2011 5:19:36 GMT -5
Bathing Beauty, while it's not a song I particularly love, does have a purpose in the show, and without it there would be a lot of problems.
The Phantom, to me, wrote music for Christine. He wrote it because he could hear her voice in his head singing it, and it inspired him. Without Christine, he's not inspired to write glorious music because he knows she'll never sing it. However, when she returns, he comes up with "Love Never Dies', which is an amazing song.
In the original Phantom of the Opera, the Phantom wrote music so Christine could sing and rise up as a star. In Love Never Dies, he writes it merely to entertain his guests and make money.
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Post by ErikaLeroux on Jun 14, 2011 16:33:48 GMT -5
Yes but even without his inspiration { Christine } would he really fall so low as to write Bathing Beauty? Yes I could see him writing less impressive songs without Christine but they would be less impressive { as in nice to listen to and all but not quite "holy fuzz wizz that was amazing! Play it again and again and again and etc!" } NOT "quick somebody poke out my eyes and break my eardrums and... Oh screw it! Just shoot me in the head instead!"
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Post by droney on Jun 15, 2011 3:54:44 GMT -5
Well, he had to make money somehow. Obviously, the crowd there at Coney Island (and especially the crowd at Meg's shows) aren't going to really and truly appreciate amazing music, let alone pay to go see it.
I think that all depends on your own personal opinion of the song. While you might think it's burning your eyes out and making your ears bleed, someone else might actually like it! (I like the music and the tune, but not the lyrics or the choreography, or the costumes [or lack thereof in Meg's case]).
But yes, Bathing Beauty is a low point of LND, if you ask me; but a necessary one.
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